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MotoGP: Harder Michelin still needs work, says Pedrosa

Dani Pedrosa says he encounters problems with harder Michelins, believes compounds need to improve in varying temperatures, surfaces.
Dani Pedrosa believes Michelin needs to improve its harder compound so it can provide consistent feedback after the two-day post-season test in Valencia.

Third fastest on both Tuesday and Wednesday, Pedrosa was pleased to “keep the pace” with the base compound tyre but when temperatures rose on Wednesday afternoon and he fitted harder rubber he encountered “some problems”.

Echoing team-mate Marc Marquez's comments from Tuesday, which stated the feeling varied from tests in Misano, Aragon and Valencia, Pedrosa feels riders need a compound that gives consistent feel in different temperatures and on a variation of surfaces.

“At the moment on the base compound it looks like you can use for many laps, in and out, for the testing,” said 2015's fourth fastest rider. “We are not looking for lap times at this moment. We are looking for testing electronics and testing other things. We need a tyre that we can work on, that is constant because every time is the same feeling. Then when you change the compound – a little bit hard or something – then there are some problems.

“I think from the Michelin side they need to fix well the compounds we can use in every surface, range of temperature. It looks like it was more hot and some people put the hard but crashed. At least with the base compound we were able to test, that's able to race and keep the pace. In to the hardest compound they need to face.”

Turning to the 2016 Magneti Marelli electronics, Pedrosa explained how they continued to act in an unpredictable manner throughout Tuesday.

As Honda has always used its own software in the past, the 30-year old feels it will naturally take time to understand the character of the Italian electronics.

"Like I said before it's the first time Honda has another manufacturer making electronics on our bike. It's the first time for our technicians and riders. It's quite complicated. It's not like one, two, three, four, five. It's like five, seven, two. Things are not in sync.

“The wheelie comes when it's not meant to be or it's not coming. It's not consistent. Maybe you are with the fixed throttle. [Mimics engine note] ahhhh then woo woo! It changes by itself. You have sudden movements and you don't know what's happening because it's only happening one lap. It's not the next one.

“Also on the technicians, they've been working through the night to get a better setting and we did. Still, there is a long way to make it better. I don't know how many more tools we will have and where is the limitation software but we need to try to keep on working and I think this is the main priority now. Then when we know this is the limit then we need to start working on the geometry, making more grip, more wheelie or whatever.”

Both Pedrosa and Marquez requested that HRC's new version of the RC213V has a more manageable power delivery and better wheelie control but due to the electronics, was still unable to give a fair assessment of the new engine.

“Unfortunately it's so hard to judge. Also my '15 engine I know very well with my '15 electronics so with the '16 electronics I have issues because the engine still seems different. With the new engine I cannot judge it very well.

“It's not in sync so I don't know if it's by your acting, by the electronics or by itself. It's very hard. One lap is like this. The next is like that. We need more time.”

HRC are scheduled to continue testing at Jerez at the close of November.

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November 12, 2015 11:27 AM

HRC should not let MM lead development. DP should be the point of reference. MM's loosey-goosey style looks exciting but led to an overly aggressive '15 engine. They then had to regress to the '14 chassis to make the bike rideable. In fact, i'd say that DP and CC should have the most input on the '16 RCV. CC because he has ridden two rival manufacturers and knows the strong points of those other machines in which the RCV may be lacking.

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