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2002 Everybody started from scratch. Honda did have the better bike and Rossi kicked ass with it. Stoner won on an even clearly better bike - biggest performance difference in the last 30 years. To say Rossi or Stoner were "lucky" is hardly comparable.In 07 stoner had a much better bike and it showed, but hardly luck. 08 stoner, like Biaggi and Gibs in their time, lost despite having a much better bike and not bad luck. Biaggi crashed 3 times trying to run from Rossi and Gibs sometimes just ran off into the gravel. Stoner still kept losing points to Rossi - even without crashing. If rossi had crashed along with stoner both times,Rossi still would be champ by quite a margin.