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BillAce, please read posts carefully, because you seemed to have already made up your mind before you actually read them, therefore, you confuse a lot of things.
I never said there's nothing wrong or doesn't count. As a matter of fact, there's something terribly wrong if a team with the size Honda couldn't come up with a decent bike since 2007. Their significant improvement just started second half of last year season.
I never said that Stoner was handed a well sorted bike, as I myself don't believe that (no rider could do $#17 on that bike before Stoner). I merely said that Stoner 10 wins were won on the non CF Duke.
A rider rides slower than its regular rider for the first time on a notoriously difficult bike is not totally unexpected.
i did say Rossi rides the Duke without planning to cross its limit. That is within the bike's limit to me.