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McLaren I don't mind being called mate as in Australia this term is considered the same way. I just get sick of childish tripe as I don't think vitriolic comments toward anyone is a mature way of getting your point across. The deal is I don't like Stoner never have (since 250's) and never will and I don't care if he can ride or slide a bike over tarmac, dirt or water for that matter. Just a huge Vale fan win or lose.