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give it a break with the how slow he was in comparison to the other duc's, he lost 5 seconds when he got nudged off, plus for the next lap it looked as if he'd given up cus he was cruising, and he even indicated (on another site) that he was just gonna ride back to the pits and retire but then changed his mind and he finish 5 seconds on 6th place and top ducati (hayden), basically if he hadnt of been nudged off he would of finished comfortably in 6th place, but even that is not the old Vale, something is very wrong in his head, i dunno if its, the bad shoulder injury that took along time to recover from plus then the bad leg break straight after then being involved in the crash that killed his best friend but one thing is clear Vale is completly shot in the head at the mo and im starting to wonder if he will ever get it back.