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to anyone who still says Rossi is mid-pack because Ducati is a bad bike...I say if Stoner/Lorenzo/pedrosa were on that same ducati and Rossi rode ANY bike he wanted, rossi would still not win. and possibly would still be mid-pack I am still a Rossi fan but I am not blind to reality. and stoner/pedrosa or JLo on a ducati would still win or beat Rossi. I am not saying it to get "agrees" or "disagrees"I know there will be a mountain of disagrees, but I think it is the truth and as they say truth hurts sometimes and we prefer to substitute with excuses and BS