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I question their passion, they are all too nice no nasty passing because ooh you hit me or that was not on ala Simo and Rossi. I still remember the race between Rossi and Jorge where they were continuously banging fairing. I am not saying it is mandatory but there should be a bit more mongrel. Equally generally when you want something bad and the other guy has it you stop being best friends. Some people like this "nicer" brand of racing. Also Darryl Beattie (who raced unlike many here) and he commented that the Yam matches in corner speed by the Honda still marches away out of corners and this is what was preventing Jorge gettng close enough to really challenge and he is ex Honda and a pretty strong supporter of Stoner I will take his opinion over yours.