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Yes but conversely pcx Stoner did not win a WC on Duc after 2007 and there are a lot of variables that changed which point to Duc having some kind of edge as to my mind the rest simply caught up in 2008. And as the constant bickering goes it would seem that most of the WC had the best bike when they won. Jorge would be mad the Honda last year just killed the Yam out of the turn and Stoner capitalised, agreed only 5 races in but it seems that advantaged has diminished and hey presto Jorge is out in front.