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@wacko you mong just admit it lad lorenzo is by far better than spies will ever be.a bent motorcycle ya he only came off it slow donsnt meen he wasnt riding on the limit.and think when it was 6 laps to go and lorenzo was write on the back wheel of danny he was holding lorenzo up for a bit.no matter what even if ben did not bin it lorenzo would of won that race no matter what and if you dont agree to that you really must be a wacko.