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Yes, my username will predispose you to think of my proponence to Rossi. Regardless, I have never liked Stoner, but respect his riding ability. His decision to retire is completely up to him, no one should scold him for it. It's his family, his career, no one can know what he is dealing with except himself. Cal, is clearly a genuine nice guy, but you got to know when to limit it. I hate saying this because I don't fully subscribe to this concept but in life this is what you have to do. Rossi is having the worst time of his life, he certainly doesn't show it. Why should he? Without optimism and the pursuit of improvement, then it is futile to race. Finally, we know how things with Honda and Rossi ended. But imagine if Rossi stayed on the Yamaha or was on the RCV instead of the Ducati. We know the Japanese bikes and Rossi are a lethal combo. Recall when Rossi started 11th or 12th in Assen, whilst Stoner led the race (on the Duke) and continued to widen the gap, and yet Rossi won the race