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I have never heard so much rubbish as has been posted on this thread,in 2011 the rossi/burges team went to Duc and we all remember the rossi/burges fans the WC is already won,well guess what it wasn't, and how many updates did Duc give rossi/burges I lost count, updates THEY asked for so in the end they asked for a new bike as close to a Jap bike as possible with rossi/burges input and Duc gave it to them and still no results so here we are now and everything is Ducati's fault,well I think that rossi/burges got found out and they are not the god's they thaught they were.so instead of bagging Ducati how about giving them a bit of credit for the effort they gave,it just goes to show with a perfect bike and huge backing they are good but on an average bike where you have to show you real metal they are also very average,(and by the way I am not a Duc fan).