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CEO Stoner, In fact, in comparing the entire racing careers of Vale and Casey it is clear that Casey is second. You are free to consider only those parts of their careers which you want, but facts are are facts, and if Casey raced for another twelve years, it is doubtful if he could match Vale's stats as they exist this very moment. For you it is sad but true. For anybody else it is just reality. And finally, remember that longevity is the true measure of greatness.