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6879 Mkes a good point. It is not necessarily that Ducati hasn't improved, but the fact is that Yamaha and Honda have been slowly evolving there fundamentally sound designs while Ducati has been in a constant state of flux trying to find at least a baseline package to build on. I for one would love to see a Trellis Framed Ducati out there again! At least they understood it! Fluttering back and forth between Carbon and Aluminum chassis and swingarms has shown to be not a core competency in Bologna! They seem to be in the same boat as Ferrari in F1. They both are capable teams but they have both succumbed to the game of catch up they have been playing with the Japanese (I know Renault is French but Infiniti is not).