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Come On Crash, you guys could discribe the picture a bit better.. I remember that in 2005 at Valencia was wet weather similar to 2012.. How we know what was the effort of riders for we compared the times?? Stoner can be more closer then Marquez because him 2005 no one bored on make a fast lap why you dont tell us the name of the rider that did the fastest lap im 2005 for Stoner be only 0.64s of the pace, All bet it was nicky Hayden..lolo.. this year Pedrosa whanted to prove us the Boss at Repsol=).lolo thats why he did a good lap on this condicioes to let Marquez at 1 secund..ehe