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There's lots of subjective drivel on this subject, but the bottom line is that if you watched a slo-mo of VR trying to turn that Donkati in to a turn, it often stood up on him - Hayden too, that indicates a basic issue. It's not the riders!! Casey found a way to bully the thing but even so it could still throw him out of the door. Casey was, IMO the best I've ever seen but VR was up against it from day one, especially as he likes a front end biased set-up. I wonder if the only way is sideways and CS did like to slide.