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I agree Niall in terms of CRT comments I think he smoking something good. He's fantasizing that Ducati is failing because of Rossi but actually they've had record sales at least here in the states. Maybe Ducati has taken a hit in the GP paddock for not producing a bike that Rossi can be competitive on. And as one other fellow noted Rossi/JB and Ducati have actually improved ever since Rossi joined the problem is that Ducati hasn't gained on Yamaha and Honda's improvement pace. (I'm the original Marc but agree with lots of what the other Marc noted earlier in this thread)