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As for Stoner better on the Duc, overall he was able to ride the Duc better, but as shown, 10,6,4,3 (with 5 DNFs in final year). I still maintain extrapolated out and given the improvements of Honda especially this year (Pedro 7 wins most in his career), and they efforts to improve the bike that wins for Stoner would have been just as elusive. As for the testing you had a guy who had ridden the bike to one coming in cold. However I also think Rossi when "Effa diz, this bika fkd I no breaka anuda bone for Duca". And Duca cannot or will not revise their bike which is why Stoner left. As for stoner saying you shoulda seen the trellis well he would say that. a 40% drop in wins the following yr would indicate it was more than just stoner in 2007.