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look dave , i know you are a big vale fan and thats all good but lets have an unbiased look at things ok...what vale achieved throughout his career is priceless , and its better than stoners full career because its more than twice as long , but head to head stoner 's is simply factually better than vales.
now on topic laguna 08.
stoners race long redline pace that changed everything for vales perfect career totally intimidated him , he was dumbfounded as to how to stop this endless painstaking speed freak that was deadly fast at every track , vale and his team planned an all out assault on stoner at laguna (vales words) , the plan was to stay in front and stop him reaching his max pace at all costs , it was a brutal lesson to serve a young faster rider by a long time champ.
but it was a master stroke of massive proportions in my book , and it worked , and it halted stoners mental dominating chi , not hard to do to a kid on the world stage , but first you have to stop it , and he did.