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Too many posts to remember who stated what exactly, but basically it's Stoner who ruined Ducati in GP. His awkward and erratic style masked the true state of disaster the bike was really in. They would've come up with something solid 4-5 years ago, or packed up by now & gone home. Also, it's true that Vale has been embroiled in more battles than any other rider in the past 10-15 years. The only ones I can think of that Casey was involved in also involved Vale. Glad Vale is back on a bike he can provide some real entertainment on! Marquez will also be way more exciting to watch than Casey ever was I'm pretty sure. Next season will be the best since 2005/2006!!