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"Strange that the facts always seem cause so much annoyment to some" You assume Stoner would be further down in if Danni not hurt "facts"? Would be further down, fact??. Speed diff 2007 only lasted a 4-6 races then they where about the same, although corner speed is a big factor in top speed. 2011-12 Ducati top speed best so that is not the advantage. Stoner is a serious rider and always push himself to the limit no matter what, Rossi is there to make money and have fun therefor the results never came on the Duce. And in my opinion being 2nd and 4th is pretty good on the Ducati considering what everyone else did on it And if 2007 was the perfect year for Ducati how come they did not end up 1st & 2nd in the Championship, who won most races in 800cc era?? Who got most fastest laps?? who got most poles?? And even when Ducati made the it in to a Yamaha Rossi did not perfor, and because he is not there to take risks, which make me believe that on th Yamaha he will be average