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Dude, you cant make comparisons as the 2 groups never raced each other (with the exception of loris).
Loris was at the tail end of his time and still did manage to beat stoner in his WC year on equal machinery!
The whole base for rossi haters the past 5 years is this crap about head to head so again, no comparison can be drawn here between the 2 sets of "challengers".
Out of interest, as a point of comparison, you should have posted vales win & podium stats (just to add some perspective/context)....since your comparing stats of 2 groups who didnt race head to head while rossi amassed his stats against all of them at different points.