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I agree with Kevin that if another rider want's to be considered better than Rossi then they need to win 8 championships in the MotoGP class or 10 championships in total (i.e. including 125/Moto3 and 250/Moto2 or whatever they're called these days). I know that haters thought Rossi was washed up in '08 but he wasn't and I don't think he is now. Will he win a championship who knows. But if he places consistently in the 5 to 10th or worse this season then we'll know that time has caught up with him. However, I'd be very surprised if this happens.