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Codger: JB said that HE can not get it to work, so they started to listen to the Ducati guys at Haydens side, and found a better direction. Now the Carbon frame was not good but Ducati (with Phillip Morris Money) changed to what Rossi wanted (because he was payed to win) because Rossi and JB said we can not sort the Carbon frame, but if you put a Yaonda frame in there we can do wonders. Did they? Both Rossi and Hayden said it was the best so far, but did they improve no. Face it Ducati with Marlboro money tried everything they could to please Rossi which was no particular direction just change of frame parts and hoping it would work, because JB and Rossi said it would.
What I am saying is that they can work in a direction they want, which mean that the whole Garage including Pramac (because they did not have the frames as Rossi and Hayden) can work together, that is 4 bikes with info Not 1 Rossi 1 Hayden with 2 different directions. This is why Honda and Yamaha is fast to develo