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@Oops mate didn't you get the memo the only acceptable viewpoint is that Rossi has no idea about what makes a winning bike and that the Yam situation in 2004 was all Yam and the situation with Duc was all Rossi. See if it wins it is the manufacturer if it loses it is Rossi. As for Stoner, in 2010 he had 5 DNFs as Yam and Honda marched on. Testing is testing but I am confident that while he would have done better than Rossi on the Duke in 2011 and 2012 in 2012 particularly he would not have won a race, Yam but particularly Honda had improved markedly pushing the Ducs further down the order. And with Stoner his agreeable gutsy riding left him with a buggered ankle on a more user friendly bike imagine what would have happened on the Duc (and people wonder why Rossi didn't push it).