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I'm comfortable saying that Rossi is definately ONE OF the greatest of all time, and Stoner is definately ONE OF the most talented of all time. Then I guess it's about whats more important to you. Statistics and records are nice, but I like knowing I witnessed one of the most talented guys to ever throw a leg over a motorcycle racing against greats of the sport and winning on inferior bikes. Dovi said Stoner's searing speed changed the sport forever and that he was the benchmark for all GP riders. Guys like that get remembered beyond numbers.