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Hmm, how many podiums did Nicky got since he joined Ducati?
And they didn't complain? Hmm, weird then that they both wanted a conventional frame instead of that CF frame.
And your opinion is depending all from what Nicky Hayden says? Stoner left because they didn't want to change the bike to get rid of the front end feel. Did you see the crashes of Rossi or Hayden 9 out of 10 front end problems. I like arguing with you, but the results aren't in the favor of NH.
I'm not even mentioning all of the riders who paid the price riding on that Ducati.