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@ livio "you are saying that the bikes will determine victory ,why pay lorenzo rossi pedrosa and co so much money when you could pop anyone on them to win"
Yes, the factory HRC's & Yams DO determine victory - thats exactly what I'm saying, and all recent history proves it.
And yes, the 4 riders on these bikes have the proven speed to qualify to ride them and get the big bucks (though passport, backing and sponsorship have helped them all along the way where others have not had the chance too).
The fact that the same racers who graduate to a factory bike (BS excepted) generally get much better results proves this also.
What we cannot know, is that if the riders in the rest of the field got the same chances and the same kit / support, would any of them be as good or even BETTER than the current pilots.
If I'm so wrong - post on here WHO is going to beat these bikes several times in 2013 to prove it! We'll count up after Valencia (& you can look stupid).