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What you, and so many others seem to forget (or conveniently cast aside) is that Casey didn't only have the 2007 title, he also had the most wins in the 800cc era... OF ANYONE! Including Rossi, Lorenzo and Pedro on (as so many people have made clear) FAR SUPERIOR BIKES. The Ducati could win, but seeing all these other top tier riders nowhere brings into light exactly how amazing it is what Stoner did on it, specially when he got very little in way of development from Duc. (Maybe that's why he "moaned"?) Either way, Ducati need to up their game in a big way.