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My opinions on the Rossi/Ducati failure are formed from clear evidence in front of me and quantifying my arguements is something most cannot do. It's not mumbo jumbo mate, just facts.
I've never said his championships don't count, although my opinion on how his popularity influenced those wins is a topic for another time and sure your argument about pushing is valid to you but how can you even consider he reached the bikes limits when another rider can get another second and a half from it?
So clearly the bike has more potential, that is undeniable, Valentino doesn't, therefore the rider MUST be the limiting factor and I don't know how you can disagree.
Stoner is not infallible and he's no one trick pony so if he can do it (and so convincingly), then why can't somebody else?