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xxx, how many of rossis championships came when stoner was in gp? 2. stoner had 2 as did lorenzo. how many championships did the riders from 00-05 have, namely biaggi gibernau, rossis main rivals at the time? NONE. simply has to do with the talent in gp at the time. back in those days there was no stoner/lorenzo/pedrosa to deal with. since the end of 05 rossi has only won 2 titles, if he is the "goat", why only 2? lets not forget the ducati fiasco, you can't deny for the first 6 races of '11 the bikes '10 and '11 bikes were identical. With all the support rossi had at ducati, why not even a single win and only 3 podiums? he had more support from ducati than stoner could have dreamed of and was just another hayden/melandri/espargaro/anyone else but stoner on it.