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Stoner was a bit like Rossi when he arrive on 500cc, or like Simoncelli or like bradl, talente riders that allways have put the factory brands waching them.. if you notice on Stoner history the same manager that was helping Pedrosa on 250cc and allways on motogp i dont remember the name of the person was the same that wach Stoner and help him building is carear inside motogp.. We are talcking about talente riders no doubt about that.. now do you think that Stoner did any better then Rossi?? is your opinian, i allready tell you about fastest laps that is obivius that Stoner is good on that but Stoner dont have the same levels of consistenci that guys like Rossi have most of is carear only on this times where Ducati that is really an harder chanlllage on this times Rossi could not be a contender but he allways a contender and even him 2010 he also finish 3 and miss races because of injury.. Lorenzo prove to be the best younger no matter what you think is consistenci im 2012 and si