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Lorenzo prove to be the best younger no matter what you think is consistenci im 2012 and since he start motogp him 2008 let Stoner for 2 place... like it or not this is the realaty and the other realaty was Stoner failing im 2012 after most the padock tell that they fell Stoner was the best and also Stoner surprissed every fan with is Confusing mentallaty and Quit the Sport.. Soo for me Stoner will allways be the never know rider is gone is history right now and he left witouht winning more then other riders soo End of Story