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you're both wrong.. prof x, nobody on a ducati could battle stoner. hayden getting a rare podium is not quite "battling". and realist, within the 1st 6 races of the '11 season, before the 11.1, both rossi and hayden had 1 podium, if you want to split hairs, rossi finished ahead of hayden 2 more times... not significantly better by any means. If anyone is to blame for the misfortunes of the ducati, its stoner, he made that piece 'o cripe look like a competitive bike when in reality, as rossi has shown us, it was far from competitive. ducati didn't listen to stoner because he was still winning on it so why change it? stoner leaves, rossi comes in with JB, they find out quite quickly its not competitve, change it up a bunch of times, still no success, then leave a messed up bike for dovi spies hayen and AI