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@wounduptootight (AKA slide),
We are discussing reasons for ducatis situation and the outfall that has followed.
You have put all your eggs in the "its rossis fault" basket and thats your opinion.
Others like myself accept that while rossi & co didnt fix it in 80secs, many other factors have resulted in ducati being where they are.
As for facts in general, the bike was crap before rossi got it as evidenced by the F A C T that only one person could ride it competitively for 3 years before rossi got it and he jumped ship because of how crap it was.
Chill, relax, enjoy the fun these chat rooms are meant to be.