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Hi Zulu, I can see what you are saying I am just saying you can remove 2010 because he was injured and 2011-12 because IMHO he was not on a competitive bike. These factors influence the near term comparison. If we look at the period say 2005 to 2009 or say 2006 to 9 when all three other aliens were in place and he won 2 of the 3 WC. Equally in 2006 you could say Stoner was just starting and Rossi had many well documented bike issues which in alot of ways lead to Hayden taking out the WC. I can still picture Rossi crashing in the last race to hand Hayden the WC that year.