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roman... see if you can find where i said vale is past it , bet you can't because i never have.
what i see is other riders are just better than him today is all , you may not like it but stoner and lorenzo have been showing for years how beatable he is , no insult there , just plain facts is all.
i'm not a vale hater even a little , i love them all , its some of vales fans like yourself that do all the damage to his image .
honestly roman if you didn't post so many things that contradict known facts you wouldn't bother people the least , seeing this is a race forum and you post misleading statements then its only fare i can refute them with what i know is the real case.
you say his 07 bike was a race winner when he got it , yet it had never even been in a race , then you say it only got better after the change , how do we know that? stoner never raced the 990 in 06 , he had every version of the 800 in top 4 ,who'e to say if he was on the 990 in 06 he would not have won races?