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@ MM Ouch! I don't think it was an attempt to discredit Stoner, I did post just after stating I was mistaken it was they before that they had the specials from Bstone, Melandri?? Not in Stoner's class bud. I don't think you know that much about moto gp Casey never came from nowhere he had been racing in 125,250 and also in the grand moto gp for a number of years But why the flaming did I nip a nerve there? I think you need to lay down in a dark room for an hour or two.