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All this bickering. At the end of the day only a two things that counts. Number of championships and all time records. Rossi has nine championships to date and possibly still counting. Just because your mate Stoner quit and was competitive for just a couple of years does not mean that MotoGP history can be summarized in those years Stoner was competitive. And Stoner and all riders are racing everybody not just a couple of guys. So basically, against different riders Stoner won only a couple of championships in thirteen years of MotoGP racing. Stoner the fastest won only two? If he is really the fastest he should have won thirteen championship in thirteen years! Fastest? Give us all a break. Championships and all time. Thats what counts. Not fast laps, race wins, sliding the bike, or just a couple of years.