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As I have always said yeah win loss most wins yadda yadda fact is Rossi only rider since 2006 to defend his title and that was against CS and JL. Also the Duc has been steadily going backwards each year since 2007 that is why Stoner left and Rossi was stupid enough to take it on. Stoner won 3 in his last season given that Honda stepped up and Yam as well it is like that wins would have been few for Stoner in 2011 / 12. Dave I agree either it is all their time in the competition or it ain't you can't move the goal posts or pick Rossi's move to Duc to suddenly release a stats page out of Aust MCN.