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HKFui I am not angry at your view your entitled to it. I think it is easy to say that as people get older they get slower especially in a physical sport such as MotoGP. Also the Duc i think masked things in that people go he did not go well on the Duc and that was the start of decline. But as Dovi isn't going as well as Rossi did it shows that the it has little to do with the rider the Duc is just bad (and I still maintain that now CS would do better but would not win a race on that bike in 2012 or 13. I think if the bike matched Rossi's strengths he would be up with Jlo we will see.