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Post-race weights confirm Byrne heavy.

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Post-race weight confirms Byrne heavy.

Post-race weights released for Monday's Donington Park round of the Bennetts British Superbike Championship have confirmed that double race winner Shane Byrne was - on average - just 1.85kg below the future twin-cylinder minimum weight.

 7 people agree.

So what was all the threats about Airwaves not racing because they could not gaurentee that the bike was safe to ride with an extra 10 kg added!! Also they said they did not have to test before Donington in this spec, yet after race 1 Shaky himself said they had done some testing in the week & he had practised some starts & stuff.
All that stuff about withdrawing from Donington was b******t & they had no intention of not being there.
Championship is already over now anyway!
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Posted by binza - Unregistered (132 days ago)
 10 people agree.  4 people disagree.

That was just the usual tripe that normally comes from Mr Wright.Totally agree with you on the sentiments about Shakey, he's a decent rider riding a machine that should not be allowed to race in it's current form. Ducati is basically a small cottage style industry that is dictating to series organisers all around the world imho, lest we not forget we could afford to lose Ducati, could we afford to lose all the other (Japanese) manufacturers?
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Posted by alol - Unregistered (132 days ago)
 5 people agree.  3 people disagree.

Even if Mr Wright and the factory ducati's cleared off i'm sure there would be plenty of other teams willing to run ducati's in the series.

The john hacket nw200 team are a non factory in house team and there not a million miles off the pace and i didn't here much noise coming from them when the 10kg extra rule was spoke about.

In my opinion, it wouldn't be a great loss if the Factory dukes weren't in the series.
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Posted by rich - Unregistered (132 days ago)
 8 people agree.  4 people disagree.

I didn't think the 1098s had an obvious advatage over the fours at donington?

OK Shakey won both races, but it was close and the other 1098s weren't even on the podium.

It's difficult to justify penalising the 1098s further unless you have a Ducati 1-2 (or 1-2-3) as it just looks like you're punishing Shakey for doing a good job.

The WSBK difference of 6kg (also roughly the post-race difference at Donington) sounds about right to me.


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Posted by Team Green (132 days ago)
 4 people agree.

Yes Colin has made himself look a bit stupid with all the pre-race weekend shouting.
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Posted by Dan - Unregistered (132 days ago)
 2 people agree.  1 people disagree.

As I previously stated adding weight to Ducati will not restrict their advantage over the rest of the field. Because Ducati's oversize engine with massive torque can carry a lot of weight. What is needed is to restrict their inlets so they will jump out of turns but they will be restricted on high speed, exactly the opposite of four cylinders. I think the game will be fair like this.
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Posted by Michael - Unregistered (132 days ago)
 12 people agree.  5 people disagree.

The ducati doesn't have an 'unfair' advantage. Shakey is just riding very well. I dont know if any one watched thruxton but the HM Plant bikes were defo quicker than the ducati in a straight line and it didn't look like the ducati had any more grunt than the 4's out of the slow corners like melbourne hairpin and the esses.

HM plant and the rest of the field just have to up their game rather than go crying to the organisers and ask for a weight penalty.
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Posted by Mr Right - Unregistered (132 days ago)
 3 people agree.  9 people disagree.

Mr Totally wrong--Probably the most uninformed naive comment I've heard on here today...
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Posted by Cougar Lemoncamp - Unregistered (132 days ago)
 2 people agree.  3 people disagree.

Cause the Ducatis have an advantage. It disgusts me, that is why I have stopped watching WSBK this year. Bayliss will get all the accolades in Australia again no doubt.
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Posted by Timbo - Unregistered (132 days ago)
Aussies Love Ducati's

Ciao
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Posted by Tax Dodger - Unregistered (132 days ago)
 4 people agree.  2 people disagree.

This years BSB & WSB have lost all the thrill and excitement that they used to be famous for. Last year the 1000cc machines were so closely matched that it made for exciting close racing, This year with the Ducati's running 1200's there may be no real difference with horsepower but the racing has become so predictable.

Phase 1, Shaky makes a bad start and goes backwards for first couple of laps.
Phase 2, Shaky goes through field making other bikes look like they are going backwards and wins.

We all know that Shaky is a truly gifted rider but this is not the problem if it was just Shaky the Ducati works teams would not be so dominant in both BSB & WSB.
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Posted by Wolfy - Unregistered (132 days ago)
 5 people agree.  2 people disagree.

The reason the Ducatis are winning in both WSB and BSB is down to the talent of the lead riders. As someone else posted, if the Ducatis were really that dominant, then it would be Ducatis 1,2 and 3.

Troy Bayliss is an amazing rider at the peak of his powers. Lets not forget his MotoGP win at Valencia!

In BSB, Shakey is the only Ducati rider consistently at the front. The bike seems to suit his riding style and the closeness of the races shows that the Japanese bikes are competitive. Shakey just has more will to win than the other guys.

It's not as if the Ducati gets to the front and then wins every race by 10 seconds. There's plenty of close racing and it's fantastic!
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Posted by Aussie ZX10R - Unregistered (131 days ago)
Cougar Lemoncamp - It might be a surprise to you, but Mr Right was right regarding the speeds on the straights - Shakey's bike was slower than the HM Plant bikes at Oulton and Thruxton.
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Posted by Anorak - Unregistered (131 days ago)
 2 people agree.

In the mid 90's I can recall Cadbury boost yamaha's winning races by miles. Niall Mac winning by +10sec was not unusual. But I don't remember any cries of 'foul' or 'unfair'. Mac and Whit/Hizzy dominated for a couple of seasons, with no other team gettig a look in. Now we have potential race winners on dukes, hondas, suzukis and even yamaha's, with racers being split small margins, and plenty of overtaking, so what's everybody's beef with Shakey and GSE. They've always brought out the best in riders. May the best team win, and if it's GSE, then so be it
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Posted by Curva Grande - Unregistered (128 days ago)
 3 people disagree.

Doesn't surprise me at all....on short circiuts a couple of mph top end is useless, it's all about grunt... with a name like anorak you'd think you're comments would be better informed.... Shakey is good no doubt, but will never be great as long as his 4rse is pointing downwards...The Duc makes things far to easy, on the HM plant honda Shakey would 3rd, 4th or 5th at best just going off previous performances...dream on believers BSB is a joke and WSBK, well the best race of the season didn't include TB...ps it's nothing to do with the riders it's the bikes......
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Posted by Cougar lemoncamp - Unregistered (128 days ago)
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