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Mosley 'victim of a disgusting conspiracy'.

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Mosley 'victim of a disgusting conspiracy'.

Max Mosley has defended the tabloid allegations about his private life as being ‘harmless and completely legal', and insisted the ‘Nazi connotations' to which the News of the World referred in its front page exposé last weekend were ‘pure fabrication'.

What's disgusting - the suggestion that there is a conspiracy, or the allegation that an old geezer was indulging in some S&M with a bunch of hookers?
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Posted by Mike - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 11 people agree.  20 people disagree.

Well, WHATEVER !!!!

What Mosely did was something really unacceptable. But, unacceptable to who ??
To his wife - Indeed, To his children - ofcourse, To his friends - you bet..... but what does that got to do with Formula1 ? Answer - Nothing.

As Kimi rightly pointed out, this issue is his personal matter and nobody shud be poking his nose into this !

If I were mosley's friend (thank god, im not), I'd probably drill into him some sense... But, as an F1 fan, I DONT care, as long as he doesnt do an orgy on F1 ;-)
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Posted by Whispering Wind - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 19 people agree.  3 people disagree.

Mr. Mosley,

F1 is a global sport....that continually seeks a greater audience in non tradional countries, that your actions may have been legal where performed, they certainly are not legal in every country in the world where F1 is watched or even for that matter the countries where F1 races are run.

TH
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Posted by Trevor Heath - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 11 people agree.  3 people disagree.

Not a lawyer or a judge but i'm sure prostitution and soliciting sex are crimes in the UK are they not??? So me thinks you've done something illegal, despite your claims...MM dont tell me those women were just horny for an old guy and you were the lucky man or that you charms worked them into the bedroom, either case is bloody hard to fathom!!!
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Posted by Munro Gow (154 days ago)
 10 people agree.  5 people disagree.

While I think Mosley is an idiot, i don't think he should be sacked or resign (for this particular reason). He is the head of the FIA - not priest or what have you. If dressing up with a few hookers is what works for him in the bedroom, i couldn't give a rats ass. It has nothing to do with his job and shouldn't even be in the papers. Outsiders judging what is and isn't acceptable in the bedroom between consenting adults is a blatant invasion of privacy erosion of his personal freedom.

He probably should be sacked for a variety of other reasons, but this is not one of them.
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Posted by John - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 8 people agree.  4 people disagree.

To claim such an issue is personal is ridiculous.
Kimi makes this point because his personal life isn't exactly pristine
For any person in a position of authority, they need to generate credibility and respect in order to represent their organisation, and have the trust and confidence from those that work for, and with them.
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Posted by Trig - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 5 people agree.  5 people disagree.

whispering wind, quie right. if news of the world had not set out to destroy mosely, for watever reason, he could have continued with his fantasies and nobody would have been any the wiser. it has absolutely nothing to do with motor sport. yes, i think he is sick, but some seem to delight in trying to link his actions with formula 1. i wonder if EVERYONE involved in formula 1 is squeaky clean. somehow i doubt it
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Posted by rich ard (154 days ago)
 8 people agree.  1 people disagree.

Trig,

Why does Kimi's life have to be "pristine"? As long as he isn't breaking any laws, does he not have the right to live as he chooses?

Some celebrities for various reasons chose to become role models, others don't, it's not a prerequisite.
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Posted by John - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 6 people agree.  2 people disagree.

Based on all his behaviour so far, if he'd been caught for speeding or driving over the alcohol limit, he would NOT hav stepped down from the FIA.
Instead we'd be reading how Max was suing some local traffic authority or car maker or whoever he could pass the blame on to. We can already see he has an opinion about the legal alcohol limit in Sweden, & Max being Max Im sure he'd hav no issue telling them how it shud be done.

He seems 100% incapable of admitting fault of any sort or accepting responsibility for any of his actions.

The world, its laws, & public morality is not putty to be moulded to suit your every whim Max!! Just hang your head in shame, leave & go into hiding!
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Posted by Dice - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 8 people agree.  3 people disagree.

The act of employing 5 prostitutes is illegal in the UK. whether this is to your taste or not?
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Posted by veto - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 4 people agree.  5 people disagree.

Looks like 90 % of the posters on this forum are priests that live an exemplary life and never ever have set a foot "wrong". Unlikely?

Working for the FIA doesn't mean that jounalists can post your **** on the news whenever they like. As far as I'm concerned MM can do whatever he likes as long as he get's his work done at the FIA. THAT should be the subject, not whether he likes to wear panties or a strap-on, Jeez...

It's just a cheap smut story that everyone loves. Completely and utterly unrelated to F1.

Anyone who claims it is directly related to MM's job at F1 needs to get psychological help as far as I'm concerned because you're "seeing things that are not there"
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Posted by A pack of wolves - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 7 people agree.  4 people disagree.

Dear "pack of wolves"

Max's position at the top of the FIA is an elected one, & as with any such political position he needs to behave in a way that is acceptable to those who have elected him to represent them. They include the national associations & their members, different categories, sponsors, motorsport related industry & the fans.
If Max is incapable of / unwilling to live a chosen life of public service in a way that is acceptable to the general public, he should choose a different career.
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Posted by Dice - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 4 people agree.  1 people disagree.

I am no fan of Max, but what he does in his bedroom is up to him and his family, and to say it is morally wrong, well, that may be to some people, who sets the standard? None of us know what goes on in our neighbours bedroom and why should we? So why should we know what Max does in his.
I have seen the video and I didnt see any Nazi stuff, in fact it looked pretty tame.
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Posted by The Swinger - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 3 people agree.  2 people disagree.

Dice, while I do see your logic, I disagree with you on one key point. The fact that people have come to expect that public figures to be perfect role models IN EVERY RESPECT including issues completely outside their field of specialty is the fundamental problem.

These unrealistic expectations of public figures and people's fascination with OTHER PEOPLE'S lives (which in no way impact their own) is the problem.

Arguing otherwise is like saying Mosley should only have sex in marriage, preferably in the missionary position because he is the president of the FIA. How is that reasonable?
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Posted by John - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 5 people agree.

John, the problem with public figures it not the public's unrealistic expectations, but rather these figures unwillingness to aspire to said expectations.

Any position where u represent others, by definition requires personal sacrifice & should primarily be viewed as a service to them. Anyone not prepared to bare that burden or aspire to such lofty goals should rather choose one of the many roles behind the scenes.
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Posted by Dice - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 1 people agree.  2 people disagree.

To simplify ... how would you feel about the damage to your family name & the looks / comments you would be subject to, were you one of the Mosley clan at this time??

Mosley's role in the FIA in effect makes him the head of that particular 'family' ... & there will inevitably now be those who point the finger at motorsport & its members because of his actions. Sponsors will be the 1st to want to distance themselves from the bad publicity, so anyone within motorsport who supports him & his actions is inviting the same criticism.
There is a very big picture here that he is obviously not seeing, or doesnt give a damn about.
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Posted by Dice - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 5 people agree.  5 people disagree.

The most shocking in Mosleygate is the criminal behaviour by those who filmed mr Mosley in hisprivate moment and also made it public. People, even the president of FIA, should have right to privacy. Hang those who stood behind the cameras, not mr Mosley!
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Posted by Racer - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 6 people agree.

Dice, while in general terms I agree with you, due to the sexual nature of this specific act in my opinion it falls outside these obligations. Lofty ideals in the case of motorsport involve fair play, sportsmanship and the like, not sexual preferences.

If people view Mosley's actions as a disservice to motorsport, this is due to their personal beliefs clashing with that of Mosley in a field outside his responsibility. This is what I deem unreasonable.
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Posted by John - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 8 people agree.  3 people disagree.

Like i am sure he told his wife, the person who he chosed to Love and Honor, that he was going out for a pint with the lads, but forgot mention he was going to throw 2.5k at a bunch of hookers go get his ass wiped, he is a sad old git, a liar, and a disgrace, and for him to front any form of motosport is a joke, if he wants his private life then let him have it, but let his life be a private one, and not the head of the FIA
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Posted by Gezza - Unregistered (154 days ago)
 5 people agree.  4 people disagree.

John, very well expressed. Some are playing the "devil's advocate".

MM should be held responsible for his results and behaviour at the FIA alone.

His sexual perversions are as good as any of the people that post in this forum.
It's ridiculous to link the two or consider that what he did is a serious crime; get real.

To me,in this matter, he looks more like a victim than a criminal. I wonder who actually benefitted from this story to be published; Is it easy money? Is it a dirty power struggle? Who is really behind the scenes on this one?
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Posted by A pack of wolves - Unregistered (154 days ago)
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