Donington has no F1 planning permission.

I'm sure they could "encourage the right people in the right places" if they "greased a few palms"......!

So lets get this right.

Donington will be hosting the British Grand Prix from 2010, without the facilities, the infrastructure (Road links etc) or even a circuit which is up to F1 standards. They haven't applied for the planning permission and when they do this will have to be agreed, then they have to do the work....

AND Bernie seriously expects us to beleive that:
A)Donington is the best venue and
B)That Bernie really isn't trying to take the British Grand Prix off of the calendar by deliberately making it untenable.

I've said it before, in previous posts, I'm sure I'll say it again.

BYE BYE British Grand Prix.

So lets get this right.

Donington will be hosting the British Grand Prix from 2010, without the facilities, the infrastructure (Road links etc) or even a circuit which is up to F1 standards. They haven't applied for the planning permission and when they do this will have to be agreed, then they have to do the work....

AND Bernie seriously expects us to beleive that:
A)Donington is the best venue and
B)That Bernie really isn't trying to take the British Grand Prix off of the calendar by deliberately making it untenable.

I've said it before, in previous posts, I'm sure I'll say it again.

BYE BYE British Grand Prix.

More Bernie Bullsh1t, what with Max the Pervert there is very strong pungent smell developing around F1.
The pair of them should take up growing tomatoes as they do thrive being fed with BS.

A race track that is at the end of an airport runway and surrounded by farm land. Potential for major development?
Issues - Safety, Noise, Green Belt,Access.
Chances of getting planning approval with no hitches and getting the building done in the UK. about minus 20
Bernie is just a Tit

f1init i agree with youre statement but bernie is definately not a tit that is useful, and i think it is all planned because he knows how long the brdc have been trying to get everything in place at silverstone he knows donnington will never be ready in time and you can guarentee that he has already decided where the replacement race is going to be

Anyone who knows about the Planning process will know that submitting a planning application for something this big is not an overnight job. The owners will not have submitted an application until Bernie had confirmed that they had the rights - which was only confirmed last week.

I bet Donington have been in-depth private discussions with the Planning Department at their local council not to mention Highways, local airport etc

This is another non-story.......

I don't think donington will have needed to wait to submit planning applications. After all a planning application doesn't need to be implemented, and once you have a basic application approved it is then much easier to get variations approved. I'm stunned to find out that they haven't got anything already approved, I'd have thought this a basic prerequisite for the deal to go ahead. There was an outside chance that work could start before 2010, (but absolutely no chance that it would be finished) and that chance has just got smaller. What a shambles.

Did similar not happen in early 90's when it had viturally moved to Brands Hatch only for it to be unable to meet standards and then buy itself out of contract and things went back to Silverstone???

Hi, doesn't anyone listen to what has been said. The CPO of Donnington quite clearly stated that they hadn't submitted planning permision because it would have showed their hand. He went on to state that the plans would be submitted in the next couple of weeks.
This is a non-story made up by the media just for news sakes...
Chris

Bernie spotted this guy for the mug he is. Bernie will pick up a few million as a pay off when reality hits and the race will go back to Silverstone with the BRDC suitable chastened and motivated as they were with the Brands deal.

Bernie has threatened Silverstone with Brands, with London and with Donington all of which are utter fantasy. There is as much chance of Donington holding an F1 race in 2010 as there is of me winning it.

what a surprise!!!! if you read alan henrys article in autocar, he asked the dwarf what would happen if donnington wsnt ready. dwarfs reply was that he had a contract, meaning that he could sue. then went on to say that if donnington wasnt ready the race would be transferred, not to silverstone, but probably outside britain. in other words, whatever the outcome, there is money in it for bernie, and better for him if donnington cant perform the contract. all one big elaborate plot to get rid of british gp and to blame others!!!! and chris, there are infrastructural neccessities too. these dont exist at present and are unlikely to be implemented, due t economic downturn.

Has anyone tried to get to East Midlands Airport on a normal day never mind when a race meeting is on.
The locals kicked up when the airport tried to expand they will have a field day with this. By the time the planning has gone through all the objections the two years will be up unless the Donnington bosses grease a few palms.

Chris - seems that we have readers who who get as excited about this non-story as much as Crash do. The plans will be submitted - there will no doubt be public meetings & presentations & objections. The changes wont go ahead unless there is a signed contract with Bernie and of course Bernie will have penalty clauses that will give him the right to withdraw the right of Donners to stage GP if building is not completed in a certain timescale.

Silverstone will wait and see what happens but I cannot see Bernie giving them the GP back if Donners defaults - it will go abroad as Rich ard mentioned.

Personally I'd like to see the BRDC telling Bernie where to stick his GP. We know that Donnington has no chance of being ready, Brands isn't up to GP standard, where will he go if Silverstone tells him to shove it? It might be the final straw that pushes the British teams to form the breakaway championship we keep hearing about (and hoping for)

Bernie will ship the Gp off to one of the circuits in europe that he has a major share-holding in. So he will make money out of it both ways!!

good plannin there then!

I've worked with planners. The pre-application discussions the week before the announcement were all Donington could risk. However, even with ready to go submissions ([plans, environmental impact assessment, traffic impact assessment, and economic impact assessment) then the Council has 13 weeks to determine the application, including all consultation with residents. Given the complexity and impact, and the councils admission that they don't have much experience of this kind of thing, they'll need all 13 weeks, and probably won't be ready to make a decision then either, so the committee will default to a refusal.

..cont. Also, if there is any controversy (gosh, possibly), the councillors on the committee will turn it down (residents vote, a track doesn't). Donington would appeal but that would take upwards of 18 months. An approval could be blocked by a Judicial Review within 48 hours. Either way - no JCB til 2011. I'm with the 'bye British GP' theory. Bernies no fool and Silverstone had been in discussions with a supportive planning authority for a couple of years with no serious progress.

Having said that Robsy - the Council will come under all sorts of pressure to approve application (probably from local businesses, airport, MP's) - look at the money that will be spent in the local economy with F1 coming. It would useful to see Donington's business plan and when is the latest date they have to start work.

But is local residents are against it as you say - it could be like T5 all over again and its bye-bye British GP

Andrew,

Just one question. How much money did Silverstone ever make out of the GP??? How much money will London get from the Olympics???

Answer. NONE it's all for the prestige, not the ca***** the only person that makes anything is BE normally from those who are looking for this prestige.