Jordan: Lewis should show some humility.

I quite agree with Mark's view on the asphalting of run off areas. Safety is all well and good, but going off the circuit should be something that costs a driver time or potentially damages the car. No driver would purposely drive into a gravel trap the way they use tarmac run off areas.

Perhaps this is something that should be addressed.

eddie, do you remember my question when we met at barcelona in the jordan vip lounge in 2001... I asked you about the type of future you think you and your team will have... you held on for some more years, made some more doe, but lets be honest: you made it for yourself... but you didnt make it in your own game... you have been an "also run.. just as much as DC and E.I."... You should have kept Schu when you had the chance... but you lost it - just like Williams: he doesnt learn either...

Fortunately the tarmac also allows people to continue when they are being shown the outside of the circuit by some aggressive "defending"....

So do you also need to start to look somewhat more closely at peoples "defensive" driving.. or do the tarmac runoffs mean you can ignore someone showing you the edge of the track..

At this rate you may as well say, just go flat out for 50 laps and then we'll let the stewards decide the result, each infringement = 5 seconds penalty. Fastest time wins.

as soon as a run off area at a corner is tarmacked, it becomes part of the track. maybe there is some product, such as a deep-pile astroturf, that would create considerable drag on a cars tyres and lead to drivers avoiding the run-off. higher kerbs were once used, but these were deemed to be damaging, and were removed or lowered. in fact, they were only damaging to those who ran over the kerbs. watching slo-mos at corners, will show nearly every car cutting the corner and bouncing over the kerbs. this should not be the quickest way around the track.

How about putting a high-ish kerb on the outside of the track where safely possible? Obviously it couldn't be used in the higher speed corners as it would act as a launch pad!! But on areas such as that chicane at Spa they could be high enough to make a driver think twice about doing what Lewis did.

It's the same for everyone and they all do it,in the last race 6-8 drivers would have been out at the first corner including Massa if you couldn't runoff....quite frankly it's another ill prepared and ill thought out comment from an ex celebrity... I never in my life seen a sports man who brings so much exitement to a sport suffer such a witch hunt.. anybody form MM to those with a passing interest should hang their heas in shame.. It should have noting to do wqith being a hamilton fan, I feel disgusted at what F1 is doing.....

Simple, do like cart (oops) IRL does, put up piles of offset tires, or even styrofoam, and if you cut the chicane, you weave the barriers. You don't weave you go bump, but you don't die.

Sorry Eddie but if you had ever been a truly successful driver never mind your pathetic performance as owner then I might have some sympathy with listening to what you have to say.
This guy Lewis has swept through the fugg of F1 like a breath of fresh air and brought back to an ailing sport some caombativeness. Yes he makes mistakes but you show me any one (Schumacher excluded) and I will show you some oner who has never made anything, please try looking into the nearest mirror.

You might not like any show of arrogance but I believe he deserves to. You as a part minority being Irish had a lot to kick against so how do you think he feels being black with the fascist Moseley.

Eddy J is talkin like somene who just got into F1...
No one ever agued that lewis was right at the canadian gp or any of the other incidents, what people are debating is the severity of the penalties inflicted against the Mclaren team...
If a Mclaren driver made a move like Massa on the Valencia pit Road he would get a drive through penalty...If he was lucky...

brain what aload of rubbish, its got nothing to do with being black so give that a rest. plus im sure eddie has done more in f1 than most. winning with a private team, and nearly stealing a title in 99 is very impressive.

lewis is great, but this idea that he has brought racing to f1 is a load of tosh(unless they didnt watch it before or decided to forget). FA and MS raced plenty. as did JPM and MS. infact them 2 did more racing together than any of lewis, fernando and kimi have done in the last 2 years. there has been very little consistant wheel to wheel racing since 2005. that one tyre rule worked.

a super driver that he is, he has not all of a sudden made the sport good or bad

To expand on Rich ard's astro turf idea, how about a six inch deep pond filled with water. That should be enough of a deterant. Cool those tires down and it will take some time get heat back in them.

But then they would drag water onto the tarmac, where the other drivers would run through it and possibly spin.

The british are just sicking of sucking at sport. Lewis comes along, looks like he might pull the poor pommies out of the F1 doldrums, and he's a faultless god who apparently re-invented F1. Even Australia, the country they sent all their criminals to 200 years ago, beat them regularly, so the insecurity is understandable really

And brian, that 'Lewis persecuted by the FIA for bein black' comment is a gem mate. Now make sure you wrap the tinfoil all the way around your head, and really tight. The saucer people can get their ray beams through even the tiniest crack.

Webber says at the end " when giving a position back you have to give a bit more"???? well how much space do you give someone,this is so confusing and really boring now.I think the drivers are getting very confused about this. Overtaking will happen less and less now.I can now see why Rossi has no intention of going to ****** F1

Why would there be less overtaking? Lewis is the only driver that I can recall that has attempted an overtaking manouver immediately after cutting a chicane. It really is not something that happens very often if at all.

Hello dootdeedoo, what sort of crap name is that. It typifies the gut less moron you apparently are since you cannot even give your true name.

If you honestly believe that there is no persecution against L H then why not state so and show your true colours to the Tifosi as you are so abviously biased.

Dootdeedoo.........typical thick Aussie.Do you know what Pome stands for?? Prisoners of Mother England. Thats you not us English.People like you let your country down when you have such good ambassadors such as Webber and Bayliss.Your whole life revolves around hating the English,sad life mate,haahahaha

dootdeedoo, I'm a Brit, and as sad as it is, I have to agree with you, Lewis Hamilton is not the be all and end all, he's not even an exceptionally good driver, he's just another good driver, no more, no less, and Eddie Jordan is absolutely right on the money, as he usually was, Hamilton needs to wind his neck in, McLaren need to start playing by the rules instead of abusing them, and F1 can get back to normal, no-ones being persecuted, victimised or picked on in any other way, least of all Lewis Hamilton, he was given plenty of leeway in 2007, he's amongst the big boys now, and he should drive more, and talk much less.
I hope McLaren enjoyed their lunch in paris, humble pie wasn't it ?

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

i was going to post but this thread is so stupid it is not worth commenting on