ALFONSO, you missed the finer point in my sarcastaic remark to robert. Once again you have not read all the comments. robert said: "In equal cars I think the top 3 (Fer,McL, BMW) teams would be on top of each other on a track with passing opportunities". In equal cars it would be amazing to see not just the present top three, but what about Renault, Williams, RBC etc. Don.t you think that in an equal car Davidson would have the same chance as anyone else?????
Alfonso, you are never up to date, because you do not read the complete article or the comments before you post your drivel. Once again you have made a monkey of yourself.
Racing drivers live to go fast and to win. The great drivers do not only want to win, they need to win and the failure to have the means to do so, a fast reliable car, makes their life a misery.
FA is of those very fast drivers with fantastic feel of the cars he drives. He told Renault about the situation of their car from the first test in January. It is unwise to tell your principals what they want to hear, feedback should always be 100% accurate even if it shocks them to the reality that they have a bad car. I do not call this indefference, its being realistic.
I have no doubt that this year it's Ferrari's year, but in 2009 FA will be challenging again for the WDC. We'll see.
Tyre barriers are only safe if they are built in such a way that they have efficient water drainage if it rains. If they fill with water they become a solid mass of very hard matter. We all remember Michael Schumachers terrifying crash in July, 1999 at Silverstone.
Mark, SAF1 has a going team to sell. It is not easy to enter F1 as a newcomer: remember the Prodrive saga of some months back? F1 is the most technologically advanced, high budget, top expertise motorsport. If these requirements are not all met then cars like the SA's will be unsafe and may place other drivers health in jeopardy. The Japanese should close the book on Sato once and for all and as I suggested SAF1 should sell the team. They are already in heavy debt ($60M just to Honda) and do not have steady sponsors. Davidson deserves a better drive, maybe he could be in a Toro Rosso next year, if Coulthard retires from Red Bull.
I have followed this debate after my openeing post, and Ghost2912 have put in some excellent follow ups. As I said the Ferraris are the best, fastest, most reliable, best tuned and setup cars on the grid. As Ralf has pointed out they were on fresh engines and during the race they were not going flat out, they just controlled and administered the race as it suited them with excellent radio communications with their controllers. They saved their engines knowing that they have to use it in Turkey. Lewis trashed his engine in Bahrain, and in Spain he was going flat out.
Hamiltron, Kubica only came into F1 in 2006. robert, if all cars were equal Davidson would be challenging for the WDC.
It is about time that Honda stops funding and keeping this team going simply to please the backers of Takuma Sato. As Anthony Davidson said the Super Aguri cars are a botched up job, and there facilities are not up to the standard required to build F1 cars. Therefore this makes the cars unsafe and a danger to others when racing.
This team should be sold to a works team to make it successful. It would be nice to see an American, European or Far East car builder entering the fray in F1 with a solid budget and real expertise.
Bernie Ecclestone would do well to attract such a group to F1 instead of SAF1, they are not race worthy at the moment.
The way I see it is this. At the moment Ferrari has the best, allround cars on the grid and they also have an experienced driver lineup in the form of Kimi who is the reigning WDC with extensive experience as well as in Massa who has been trained by Michael Schumacher who is also the test and approval driver for Ferrari. McLaren has a good car, but a sophomore driver lineup both of whom although fast lack experience. BMW-Sauber has an experienced driver in Heidfeld who is being outclassed by Kubica who himself is a newcomer to F1. Both McLaren and BMW-Sauber are suffering drastically from the lack of a fine tuning setup race driver to get them past the Ferraris. Status quo at present.
of an overall Championship material driver, for the likes of Honda.
Dave, I quite agree with you up to a point. I'm sure that if Lewis hypothetically goes to Ferrari now, he'll be a great success considering that he'll still have the great Schumacher to develop and setup his car, in the same way and manner that last year he had Fernando to setup the Mclarens. This is the point of this topic. Ross considers only two drivers with a possibility of three to be outstanding from the rest, and as he said Alonso is one of them. He did not mention anyone else in this regard, we are all speculating.
Simon, of course everyone has his opinions and view on any topic, but unless we are realistic we will never agree on this subject. I have always said that Lewis is a very good and very fast driver. Definitely.
I have also and always said, and I maintain this, that he is very new and inexpeienced in F1 and has not matured enough to be considered in the same category as the greats. He has not won any title in F1 as yet.
Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Alonso, Piquet, Hakenen and others are multiple WDC's and considered to be among the great.
The difference at the moment is that Lewis is not considered to be either a setup or development driver and therefore falls short of what's required
Simon, Senna, Prost and Alonso are all multiple World Champions. Ross definetely was not trying to put Lewis in this category. He was only talking about No1 and 2 drivers, and not a free for all of good drivers in the same team.
How can a winner of NOTHING be compared with Senna, Prost and Alonso (who dethroned Michael Schumacher), and to an extent with Kimi also. There is no comparison. It is transpiring race by race this season, that Fernando's talent and setup knowledge were a major factor for Lewis' podiums and wins last year. That is what Ross was referring to when he said that Alonso is one of the only two drivers (possibly three) that stand out from the rest. Admit it.
Simon, normally I'm not one to engage in personal arguments, but I think that your three posts above are very silly and do not make much sense. You have not answered any of my questions as you stated. I write long because that's the way I like to write. You seem to read every word I write because you are one of those who always comment on my posts, so someone is actually reading them. If you do not like my comments, no problem, save yourself some time and do not read them and do not try to start stupid arguments. I repeat: WHERE HAS LEWIS BEEN MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLE? ALFONSO did not read the full text, and you are hallucinating about Lewis all the time.
Simon why is it that you have to bring in Lewis all the time even when the article does not concern him or even when none of the posters here have even mentioned him? Have you got a Lewis phobia or something?
I can assure you that he said two or three to simply give an indication that eventually there might be a third driver. At the moment there isn't. I can also assure you that if Ross ever picks Kimi or Fernando, Lewis will not have a chance in hell to be picked, and Ross will not pick Lewis as the lead driver because Honda requires a development driver to further their aims which clearly Lewis is not. See where Mclaren are vis a vee Ferrari and even BMW.
ALFONSO, I suggest that you read the article from start to finish because you have ceratinly made a monkey of yourself this this time. In the last para on Pg.2, Ross said "...... there sre 2 or 3 drivers that are above the level of the rest, and Alonso is one of them". You have already been corrected by Backbeat. Some of us read the whole article and comments before we answer. I suggest that you do the same before you make a fool of yourself.
Simon, You have already been corrected and answered by Ghost2912 and by Tealeaf, but tell me where in the article has Ross ever mentioned Lewis? You are only speculating that the third driver might be Lewis.
Barichello at 36 would be retiring shortly from F1 for sure, and although Jenson is only still 28 and has been in F1 for some time has not really been a shining light with any of the teams he raced for. If Ross Brawn's edict from Honda is to make them a winning team in as short a time as possible,then he has to look at the whole picture from design philosophy, development and drivers lineup. Excluding the new drivers, there are drivers who have been in F1 for a long time but will never make it to WDC, to name a few: Coulthard, Fissichella, Heidfeld, Barichello, Button, Trulli. From the rest Ross would only pick Fernando and Kimi, backed by a fast second driver. That's the way it's done.
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