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Burgess defends Rossi's overtaking.

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Burgess defends Rossi's overtaking.

Valentino Rossi's Fiat Yamaha crew chief, Jerry Burgess, has rebuffed Casey Stoner's claims that some of the Italian's moves were too aggressive - and believes what was seen in Sunday's US Grand Prix was commonplace during the '80s and 90s.

 6 people agree.  46 people disagree.

Don't you suspect that deep inside he must have sympathy for his countryman?
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Posted by me - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 69 people agree.  10 people disagree.

It was a real Race. Just ignore the Spoilt Brat. He is not happy when he comes in 2nd. He is not Happy when he comes in 3rd. He is not Happy when he comes in 4th. Practically the team had to push him to continue when he was coming in 16th. He wants to be first all of the time. Otherwise he wants his Soccer ball back and go home so that no one else can play if they dont let him score.
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Posted by saran dorairaj (81 days ago)
 3 people agree.  12 people disagree.

It would be interesting if Ducati brought in Burgess.
I still think Rossi would win - 125, 250cc without Burgess.
With over 25 years experience, it wouldnt do any harm.
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Posted by steve1992 - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 18 people agree.  3 people disagree.

Ofcourse Burgess has sympathy for Stoner, and respect. But he's a very competitive person himself and works for Rossi so the first thing they want to do is beat Stoner. And Jeremy can be a good person to compare this race with those in previous eras as he has been in the thick of it for decades.
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Posted by The Morgue (81 days ago)
 47 people agree.  2 people disagree.

It seems to me that some of these younger riders would rather do time trials than actually race, way out in front on their own happy have to work for a win its all too hard.Thanks to the likes of rossi,hayden even de angelis and lorenzo don't seem to mind being a bit physical do we really want to watch races where it's so sorry after you mate.I watch all motor bike racing and all the others there doesn't seem to be any whinging when they come into the pits wearing somone elses paint, and not at one point that i could see did rossi touch stoner.
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Posted by barry - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 5 people agree.  1 people disagree.

Wonder if Rossi will write another book (the last one on how he switched to Yamaha & won) on how he succeeded in winning the WC with a "suicidal" swtich on Brigdestone ...
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Posted by 675 - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 6 people agree.  2 people disagree.

steve1992, rossi did win 125 and 250 without burgess, i,m missing your point i,m afraid mate
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Posted by charliefarley - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 5 people agree.

Morgue..JB and his team keeps on doing this in coming up with a race setup from nowhere. VR said they had gained a few tenths between warm up and race but the gain was closer to 1 second per lap. It is no wonder VR took JB and his race team from Honda to Yamaha as they are simply brilliant.
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Posted by CA - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 21 people agree.  97 people disagree.

The problem is that all the other riders can't ride like that because they know that they will be penalised - only Rossi can get away with it.

If there was an announcement from FIM that everyone can ride as aggressively as they like it would be okay.

Either the rules are for everyone or for no one.
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Posted by kimey - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 25 people agree.  44 people disagree.

Casey said he had no problem with the majority of the passing. And of course he doesnt like coming second, none of them do. As a WC, at the pinnacle of motorsport, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Personally, watching the race I thought Rossi was gonna take them both out on a few occassions. None of you can deny that he was on the absolute ragged edge (and occasionally over it) trying to keep a quicker Casey behind. That mistake through the corkscrew, where he skewed back across Casey's line was definitely over the limit.

Either way, Rossi was damn lucky they were at the hardest track to overtake in MotoGP. And he and Casey both know it.
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Posted by RXRacer - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 14 people agree.  2 people disagree.

i've watched the race again because it was fantastic...but all the passes that rossi made especially on the top of the corkscrew was unbelievable and i think stoner didn't expect to be passed there....before the race start stoner was ask if he has any doubts that he will win and he said "none"....he was to confident and he didn't realise that rossi could prove to be a menace after the five pole position he got & 4 race that he won......this prove that if u have the faster bike doesn't necesary means that u can always win....
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Posted by floryn - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 27 people agree.  6 people disagree.

Rossi didnt cut across Stoners path to impede him. He crossed Stoners path to save himself from hitting the tarmac.

Safety first people!

What would people have said if Rossi had lost control of the bike in the gravel on the corkscrew and his bike went careering into Stoner, knocking him flying? Dangerous riding?!!!

Great Race, Whinging Australian didnt win. oh dear. How sad. Nevermind...

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Posted by Ben Sugden - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 23 people agree.  2 people disagree.

"The problem is that all the other riders can't ride like that because they know that they will be penalised - only Rossi can get away with it."

What a load of nonsense!....he made one mistake going into the corkscrew, nothing else he did was either unfair or a hard move. Stoner just isn't used to that kind of racing, he's the new generation...he should go watch some MGP racing from the 80's and 90's.
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Posted by Keith (81 days ago)
 4 people agree.  1 people disagree.

rossi showed why he is the favorit rider and why hayden said @ sachsenring 2004, HE is really the last one you want behind you. and that mistake in the corkscrew wasnt that bad and rossi knew what he did, he was @ the inside of the corner so if he had hit stoner it whould be like jerez 2005 with gibernau.

but WHAT A AMAZING race i didnt care who whould win it was a awsome battle between 2legends.
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Posted by alex46 - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 17 people agree.  4 people disagree.

Stoner, stop crying and start racing, maybe you forgot Estoril this year where you almost knocked yourself out and i believe Nagano and Toseland (Vermeueln)as well in 1 corner to overtake them.

Burgess has nothing to defend because Rossi did nothing wrong......

Go Vale!
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Posted by #46 - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 9 people agree.

Kimey,

can you name one rider that has been penalised for this sort of riding? This was close racing by both riders, the moment in the corkscrew was not intended, a miscalculation from Rossi. This was the only moment from which I could understand Stoner would be a bit unhappy, but it does not qualify for a penalty. Anyway, Rossi can't get away with more things than others, he's had more penalty's in Motogp than quite a few other racers.

Can people please stop all the bashing of riders on this site and just enjoy great racing as we've seen this weekend by both Rossi and Stoner.

Cheers
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Posted by The Patient - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 1 people agree.

Watching a re-run of the race last night, I wonder if at the time, Stoner was even aware that Rossi had to go off road when he passed him "unsportingly". He might have a different opinion now he's had a chance to see a video of the race.
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Posted by Roy 666 (81 days ago)
 36 people agree.

They are both extremely talnted RIDERS.

Rossi however is also a sublimely talented RACER.
One ofthe biggest weapons in his amoury is his tactical racecraft.....
Underpowered bike, tyre conservation, top speed deficite, it doesn't matter what the problem appearsto be, Dr Rossi manages to conjure some magical potion from his Dr's bag to deal with the condition.

In terms of racing mentality, Rossi is a man, and Stoner is still a callow youth.
Rossi also has charisma, character, an engaging personality, and a full appreciation of what spectators enjoy because he is still an enthusiast himself.
continued...
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Posted by LippyD - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 10 people agree.  8 people disagree.

Thats just it, Rossi didn't really make up the deficit. When Casey ran wide on lap 9, or whenever it was, he dropped over a second to Rossi. He made that up in less than 2 laps.

My point is that he kept Casey behind, purely due to the extreme difficulty of overtaking at Laguna, and ragged edge blocking/block passing.

I still give alot of credit to Rossi for his performance though, so don't construe my words as 'anti-Rossi'. I have the utmost respect for the guy and his ability.

All I'm saying is that no-one should be fooling themselves into thinking Rossi was really on Stoners pace. He'll go into the summer break relieved to have won, but still somewhat concerned.
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Posted by RXRacer - Unregistered (81 days ago)
 11 people agree.  36 people disagree.

I never said he cut across Casey to impede him! My point was exactly what you said. He was outta control and had to cut across to save himself. What a dumbass you are Sugden, you basically incriminated him yourself, trying to defend him.

If that's what happens, you lose the bike in such a way that you have no choice where the bike goes but to end up in the path of a competitor as you skew back on track, you've pushed way too far.

And if Casey isn't allowed to protest nearly being taken out of a race, then there's something wrong with this 'Rossi lovin' world.

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Posted by RXRacer - Unregistered (81 days ago)
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