F1 » Ferrari: Mercedes got away 'virtually scot free'


The Horse Whisperer: "It is somewhat perplexing to say the least to see that the guilty party can get away virtually scot free for having derived 'an unfair sporting advantage'..."

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Realf1fan

June 21, 2013 7:28 PM

Ferrari needs to accept the tribunals decision and stop whinging and move on.

Cant blame Ross for seeking clarification pre the test and being given information by the governing body that conflicts with the governing body.

FIA sort yourself out.

107SS2009

June 21, 2013 7:53 PM

Realf1fan, the conflicting information was given by Charlie Whiting and not the FIA, OK he is the FIA man responsible for such matters but if he was in the wrong it doesn't mean the FIA was in the wrong, it only means the case is legally lost and for sure his office functioning will be drastically reformed.

pcxmac

June 21, 2013 8:06 PM
Last Edited 454 days ago

Sorry Ferrari, your car still sucks, even with Pirelli feeding you tires to slow down Red Bull and extra secret tests, you need to think about promoting competition and not your politics.

*Ferrari are no better than Apple inc trolling patents.

richard

June 21, 2013 8:42 PM

rob. they ARE seperate!
it has just been on tv, Charlie can only give an OPINION but cannot rule or pass anything. only the fia can do that! and if you followed the tribunal, you will have heard that clearly stated and brawn also admitted that he incorrectly went on charlies opinion.

don't blame me for stating actual facts, facts that have been leally proven. you don't like it? but you have to accept it.
CHARLIE CAN GIVE AN OPINION, BUT NOT PERMISSION.

Realf1fan

June 21, 2013 8:54 PM
Last Edited 453 days ago

107SS2009, bit harsh on Charlie the non FIA operative lol, as he did seek confirmation from the FIA legal department in Sebastian Bernard who advised whiting that a 2013 could be run if it was a Pirelli test under article 22

It states that 'Track testing shall be considered any track running time not part of an Event undertaken by a competitor entered in the Championship, using cars which conform substantially with the current Formula One Technical Regulations in addition to those from the previous or subsequent year.'

Note well the words UNDERTAKEN and COMPETITOR

yachtJohn

June 21, 2013 9:14 PM

Seems to me, every time I've heard of the "approval" from Charlie Whiting, was that it was allowed - if EVERY team was given the opportunity to participate- which they weren't. How anyone can call three days of testing with current cars, current drivers, and current tires, not an unfair advantage, well take off the blinders and put on a blindfold with your team (Mercedes) colors on it.

Mark _

June 21, 2013 9:39 PM

I don't even like Mercedes or their drivers but to me it was clear that the test was conducted by Pirelli not Mercedes.

@yachtJohn - (isn't that call the head?) do you think that the penalty will right the situation? Surely a three day test in which Mercedes could run their own program albeit with young drivers would be of more benefit than running Pirelli's program with little to no data to analyze nor the knowledge of which tires are fitted to the car.

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