F1 » F1 set for Indy return?

I was there at that race in 2005, it was clear in the practice and wualifying that Michelin had tires that they could race on. Kimi dominated qualifying and most practice laps. Michael qualified , if I remember corectly third for that race and ruebens was behind him, the other two teams where not truly competative teams so they were just lucky for the outcome of the race. I was so pissed when the cars did their required lap and then pulled in the garage, what was so upseting is that next to me and my friends was a family from Russia that was here spectating, Michelin should have paid their airfare and accomidations for their total carelessness for the fans. I still blame Michelin

F1 » Theissen chasing percentages.

Tim, I agree with you that there is always going to be someone complaining about the rules governing the rights to use only one product provider. I dont care who provides the ECU as long as they are not a team racing for the campionship titles. I just dont see, for instance BMW, calling tech line to ask how they get this BMW specific thing working since it is not in the Mercedes car. Wow then Mercedes has to send a technician to look at the problem, now mercedes got stuff that may have been private to BMW and was not a rule infraction and would have turned out to be a great advantage for BMW. Everything runs through the ECU so how can teams truly develope true legal engineering advantages.

F1 » Theissen chasing percentages.

Thank you Mika. Bob the knob, I was posting that since at the end of the article Dr THeissen was quoted about them trying to work out the electronics bugs in the dyno room and the fact that they are spending a lot of time trying to get the tune right. As for my post, it has some to do with the article and some to do with venting. I just dont see how a team that is competing has the exclusive rights to such a pinacle part to the cars and their teams development. My beleif is that an ananimous party not invloved in competition in F1 should have those rights. This way for sure there can be no statements claiming a bias one way or another during a tight championship fight.

F1 » Theissen chasing percentages.

Does anyone else think it is totally unfair that McLaren get to be the sole electronics provider for the F1 field while also competing for the titles. I think this is going to turn out to be a bad move. I am at time a conspiracy theorist but come on, I dont see how a competing team can have exclusive rights to the manufacture of a crucially important part to all the teams success. BMW says they are in the dyno room trying to make the power with this electronics. It seams very unfair that McLaren is the only team that totally undersatands the electronics, giving them a clear advantage over every other team.

F1 » McLaren: Fuel breach gave rivals advantage.

George, No one here us saying the team should not be punished if they broke the rules, we are arguing against the driver punishment since McLaren was allowed to retain their driver points. If they punish the drivers then LH was handed the title unfairly in September. Ferrari won the manufacturer Title fair, even if Mclaren's pts werent deducted they would have won with everything the same. And Kimi won the title fair as well, LH lost the drivers title for MC> Its not about favoritism, its about fairness of penalties. Ferrari beat MC and all other teams fair this year, they deserve the glory.

F1 » Date set for McLaren appeal hearing.

as for the Renault thing I just mentioned in the post above, how is it they were allowed to stretch the limits for half a year and still compete and win the championship? If they were treated as all you Ferrari haters want Ferrari to be treated then Ferrari would have been champions last year. McLaren was punished as they were because of Mclaren not telling the truth about the information and saying they never used it to their advantage, they used it in Melbourne. 1 month prior to when Ron Dennis said in his first deposition with the FIA he learned of McLaren having the illegal Ferrari Data. RD claimed he learned of having the Data in mid april, when is the Melbourne race??? March 14th-16th!

F1 » Date set for McLaren appeal hearing.

Derek0013, You have got to be kidding me, what about when Hamilton's team used more tires than the regulations allow and he wasn't penalized but the team was only in a monetary fine. What about when Renault had the suspension dampenning device 1 year ago for half a season. They had to remove the device but they were no penalized with points deduction. What about BMW earlier this year with the flexible rear wing, they again weren't penalized for that and that is for sure a aero device. All the teams in F1 try things to test the limits. McLaren took one of Ferrari's streching examples away and Ferrari still beat them fair and square on the track. McLaren is being a sore looser.

F1 » Date set for McLaren appeal hearing.

Yes Matt this is Jason, i haven't a clue who Victor is. No need attacking me because of a post. The facts are the facts and McLaren already set the presedence with the spy ordeal, "Penalize the Team, not the Drivers". Thats what AMcLaren got, that is what the other teams should get. With that Kimi is still Champ. Steve- well put, I posted the complete quote from the FIA ruling a while back and it stated exactly that. The rules where unclear so there was no rules broken for Ferrari's floor. Hence the rules and the enforcment where changed after Melbourne. And Ferrari complied without a whimper, Why cant McLaren and Ron do the same?

F1 » Date set for McLaren appeal hearing.

McLaren say, "We had no choice but to appeal due to the importance for the matter and its precedence." They set the precedence with the spy ordeal, the manufacturers points where taken away but the drivers where spared because they have little control over what the team does and shouldnt be punished for the mistakes of the team. That is what the FIA ruling said so that LH and FA could keep their points. The precedence is set, now deal with it. They get the same ruling you got RD, that still leaves Kimi as champ. Learn to control your team and maybey you will get a championship. RD is such a ****head.

F1 » Raikkonen title not quite his - yet.

Jimmy, You say McLaren was penalized with a fine and that they should not penalize the drive (LH) because of a teams mistake, then the same should stand for BMW, neither Nick H or Robert K should be penalized for their teams mistake. If you look at the laps they pitted at there would be no gain to cooler fuel. The only gain is that they can carry a little more which based on their pit strategy they wouldn't have needed anyway. The same stands for the Stephneygate incededent, penalize the team not the drivers. McLaren set the precedence with the unfair ruling in the spygate afair and now they want a different outcome here. The results should stand, no double standard.