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The Yamaha definately didn't have any "Special Go Fast Parts" prior to 2008! Rossi is just that good. Plain and simple. If he were to leave the series today, a WHOOOOOLE lot of people would quit caring about this sport. Say what you will about Dorna making him the GOAT. Even IF they were helping him somehow, that doesn't make people like him. People like him for who HE is and nothing else. He crushes all the newcomers and veterans just about every year and "some" people just can't stand it. One thing is for sure, as long as Rossi races, he will be king and EVERYONE in the MotoGP paddock knows that! There is a level called "ROSSI" and ALL of the other racers are trying to get to it!
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Emtek Racing Kawasaki in South Afica doesn't have an experienced rider like that either but, they do have the unexplained raw talent of Morais! Ben Spies has came to Yamaha and is instantly fast on a undeveloped R1 and thus is also proving that if you have a fast rider, he'll be fast on anything. Like I said, if Kawasaki had riders that have "proven" to be fast, experienced and good at developing, they'd be fine. Jamie Hacking slipped back to dead last in the 1st lap of his MotoGP race at Laguna but, by midway he was up to 9th! Keep in mind that he was on a bike that he had ridden 2 TIMES prior to that race weekend! That was the same Kawasaki that everyone called crap this year in MotoGP.
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One more thing, if you put some of the top riders on the top bikes, you're gonna see them win unless, you're watching rossi race because, he can win on ANYTHING! My point is, look at Superbikes in the AMA, totally dominated by Yoshimura Suzuki and I'm sure we all know how unfair their advantage has been but, with all things a little more equal between the rest of the field, Kawasaki was on top most of the time. Because they had a good, fast, experienced veteran rider in Hacking. Now onto WSBK and MotoGP. Does either Kawasaki team in these series have a proven, Rossi, Corser, Hacking, Bayliss type rider? No. --Cont.--
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Hi all! I'm a die hard, to the core Kawasaki fan and I believe Kawasaki has what it takes to be winners. Jamie Hacking and Sheridan Morais have proved this. Look at how Jamie and his team in the AMA took the all new for 2008 ZX-10R and turned it into a consistent podium finisher. Morais's results also speak for themselves. As far as street level production bikes are concerned, Kawasaki's ZX-10R was the strongest power-wise bike on the market. The problem was, it was VERY hard for anyone to tame all that power but, the 2 guys I mentioned above were able to. There's hope for Kawasaki, I think they should hire more experienced, proven riders like Hacking and riders with the grit of Morais.
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I agree with you A1 and I do undertsand that the version Rossi rode for his 1st race in Welkom wasn't as bad as the previous year's model but, even knowing this, was it the best package on the grid? The RCV at the time was waaaay ahead of it in terms of power and everything else. My point is, Rossi and his team had their work cut out for them from the very start at Yamaha and it wasn't as much of a cakewalk anymore like it was at Honda and despite this, they've still managed to win races and be the biggest threat to any team at the top EVERY YEAR since going there. THOSE are stats that can't be denied.
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My point is, no matter how much people try to belittle Rossi's accomplishments, you'll never take away the fact that he's the greatest of ALL time. He's won on the best bikes and the worst bikes. He's won on the best tires and the worst tires. He's done soooooooooooooo many things to even list them all and people steadily rag him. Gives new meaning to the whole "Heavy weighs the Crown" thing I guess. Tell me something Bob, how many other riders have you seen, leave the best of everything to go and prove that they could win without it?
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OOOOOOMG here we go again with the whole "Best of Everything" arguement again. I have a question Bob, why does all the non-factory riders not have a factory ride? Why is it that the factories chose someone else over these guys? My point is, if you ARE the BEST, you GET the BEST. I've said it before and I'll say it again, what was Rossi to say, "No sir, don't give me a competitive bike! How dare you offer me this top of line machinery"? He basically said that to Honda and went to Yamaha and STILL won Championships. Let's see Stoner leave Ducati and go win like that. We've seen Rossi struggle with his bike for 2 years up to this year and each of those years he was still a BIG threat.
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Would you really be willing to risk investing your money on him hoping the Honda days are over OR would you feel better putting it all on a man who’s tried it all and defied the odds time and time again to prove to the world that he is the Greatest of ALL Time? Your time and money as president of your company are riding on this. Take some time to think about this sir, even if the rest of world KNOWS this is a no-brainer decision.
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(In Stoner’s defence, he was and still is the only rider so far to get the maximum out of the Ducati and that says ALOT.) OR would you choose the guy, who's won MULTIPLE championships on DIFFERENT bikes AND tires? Keep in mind that Rossi has single-handedly drug MotoGP kicking and screaming to the fore-front of the world and because of his popularity, he has the power to get YOUR company exposure of EPIC proportions. Seeing how both haven’t ridden your bike, from a business AND racing point of view, VALENTINO ROSSI has showed what he could do for you and your company if you chose him. Stoner has proved to be awesome for “Ducati” not so much for Honda. ---continued---
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Bob @ Work, I think championships are won on a year by year basis. If someone had to choose between Rossi and Stoner while Rossi was still racing, they'd have to be INSANE to pick Stoner over Rossi for numerous reasons. If you were the president of a new team entering MotoGP and both of them became available and you had to choose one knowing that neither have ridden your bike before, would you take a gamble on a guy who crashed ALOT in his rookie season in the premiere class and then won a championship in the 1st year of a new era for MotoGP when it was evident that MANY of the manufactors were caught with their pants down? ---continued---
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The 2008 M1 has made drastic power improvements too though. Look at the Shanghai races in 2007 and 2008. In 2007, Stoner didn't even need to slipstream Rossi to be able to blow past him on the longest straight. This year was TOTALLY different as we all saw. I feel like the Ducati is still stronger overall but, I feel like this year's M1 isn't that far off anymore. We saw that Rossi was able to make due with the 2007 M1 so, what did everyone think would happen when he got a "better" M1? Rossi can win on whatever, can Stoner say the same? If he ever gets tired of people saying it's the Duc that's allowing him to win and he changes teams then wins then, we'll see. GOOOOO ROSSI!
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