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Joeski

April 21, 2015 6:40 PM

MotoGP » Rossi and Marquez: Racing incident


Codger: In Warmup Marc tried out both tyres back to back, He was slightly quicker than Rossi on the Extra Hard and much, much quicker on the Hard. I smell a bovine deposit, Marc took a punt on the Hard and it backfired on him. Simple as that.
Double check your information...MM, Crutchlow and Livio all said that no one had the pace of Rossi on the extra hard...Crutchlow said that Rossi did some 12-15 laps in low 39s (during WUP, I think) and no one had that pace...hence the Formula 1 Honda strategy with LCR....

Joeski

April 21, 2015 6:07 PM

MotoGP » Rossi and Marquez: Racing incident


bikenutter: I'm going to get a whole bunch of hate for this but I think Marquez's pace is still miles ahead of Rossi (and the rest of the field). In Qatar he ran wide and in Argentina they chose the wrong tyre. I think the only way Rossi can win this year is if MM keeps having issues/making mistakes.
Really??? have you even seen or read the articles or interviews...They did not chose the wrong tyre!!!....they could not match the pace of Rossi on the extra hard so they had to use strategy with the softer option to get away in the early laps then manage the last half of the race when Rossi would be stronger...if MM used the extra hard he might have been 5th at the end..instead of the possible second he tossed away...PS. MM with a clear track in Qatar had a slower race (5th fastest, I think) lap than Rossi and Rossi was in a battle which tends to slow the lap time..so you are clearly wrong...

Joeski

April 22, 2015 12:28 AM

MotoGP » Rossi and Marquez: Racing incident


P.S. Redding now also have a little regret not using the softer option...so it seems to me that Rossi was the sole difference on the extra hard...as Jorge struggled. Smith did well on the extra hard but is in 6th while Cal on the hard was on the podium... I believe Rossi would have won under any condition...meaning whatever tyre MM chose...he had the fastest lap of the race eventhough MM was on the softer tyre which would have conceivably given him the advantage of a fast lap time especially earlier on...MM created a 4 second gap early but still did not take the lap record. "What ifs" are useless but had he not crash..I believe he would have lost by 1.5-2.0 seconds..which still put Rossi almost 4 seconds faster than the dominant MM last year over race distance. The fastest lap time should have been set on the hard compound...but was not!!...respect to MM but this was Rossi's race.

Joeski

April 21, 2015 6:25 PM

MotoGP » Rossi and Marquez: Racing incident


mobilnas: MM93 should be fined for running into Rossi. And he should be fined exponentially every time he runs into a rider. He is being treated way too much as a golden child. I like his riding style but not him at all. He rides the same way he did for the first two seasons - powersliding and all. But he isnt getting away this season. FACT#: He was on super competitive machinery and now we see that his style not making too much of an impact. It was the bike.
Let's not get hypocritical.....See Jerez 2005 and see what Sete has to say about Rossi....who by the way is my favorite rider...but Argentina was just an overzealous error of a determined rider much like Rossi in his early days...admittedly he needs to be more careful and calculated but this was a race incident...Rossi, MM and race direction have stated....glad they are both unhurt!!

Joeski

April 22, 2015 12:02 AM

MotoGP » Rossi and Marquez: Racing incident


Codger: It may well be that both Ducatis would have done even better if they had access to the Extra hard tyre. Bloody tyres, I'm sick of races being dictated by tyre choice.
I guess you have been tired for a long time...because as far as I know and have seen, tyre choice has always played the biggest factor in motorcycle racing... it was this reason that they (DORNA) went single tyre supplier... to eliminate the disparity between brands and make the same tyres available to everyone... although admittedly with the concession era..there has been some tyre disparity but no different than when Michelin dominate over BStones and Dunlop...if you were not on Michelin you lost and then BStones stepped up and if you were not on them you lost...tyres... the single most important factor in bike racing...doesn't matter if you have the best kit or not!!

Joeski

April 22, 2015 12:13 AM

MotoGP » Rossi and Marquez: Racing incident


Codger: Joeski.......Rossi was 5th fastest in warmup so Marc had other riders to worry about not just Rossi. If Cal said 12-15 laps in the low ... It does make you wonder though, if it was that obvious what made Marc come to the grid on the Extra Hard ??
Thanks for the update...I only took MM, Livio and Cal's words as gospel... I suspect that the issue was the temperature...they intended to race the extra hard...but with cooler temps putting them in the window where either could work they decided the softer option was better as...they...stated Rossi had an incredible pace that they could not match on the extra hard..in that situation I think they made the correct choice...2nd - 4th were on the softer option..if MM had not crash that would mean 2nd - 5th on the hard...so it is difficult to say it was not a competitive choice..

Joeski

April 21, 2015 12:49 AM

MotoGP » Marquez: Rossi is still my idol


"Mark should know if he is constantly making slower lap he should not try to follow Valentino, and specially not Valentino ..." Vale was slower than Casey in 2008 Laguna...if Rossi followed your advice he would not have won that race...that is the difference between champions and also rans.... I agreed that he made a mistake but to suggest "basically" that he should have pulled over and allow Vale to pass and then follow IN THE FINAL LAPS!!! is...well...what is the word.....ahmmmm... oh yea...STUPID!!!! It would be better to just say...hey MM stop making rookie mistakes and keep it cleaner next time!!!

Joeski

April 21, 2015 12:42 AM

MotoGP » Marquez: Rossi is still my idol


cont'd, simply put...whatever tyre he chose, Rossi had the better pace but with the tyre he did choose he had the opportunity of finishing second not 3rd, 4th or possibly 5th... His other strategy was to upset Rossi's rhythm, a technique employed by Rossi himself in the popular Rossi vs Casey at Laguna 08...MM needed to ensure Rossi did not break away in front which means he needed to repass immediately if overtaken...his mistake was not his strategy but his execution of his tactics...he miscalculated the tight lines used by Rossi and in turn try to pass where the gap was closed...hence the first contact...still a mistake not intentional...his true final mistake was his attempt to make the left switch back but the front wheel had not cleared Rossi's rear tyre, Rossi's rear tyre flicked MM's front up into the air...race incident albeit an error in judgment..happy they are both ok and sorry he crashed...

Joeski

April 21, 2015 6:58 PM

MotoGP » Moto3: Fenati apologises for Ajo attack


Ajo obviously did something that he was unaware of....maybe he pulled in front of Romano and he had to hit the brakes hard which almost tossed him....but he was not angry for "absolutely no reason"....with that said...he could have handled it better...but he is how old???? these boys are not all men yet just because they are racing motorbikes...they are just good at motorbikes!!! They will learn....eventually...some more than others but this is human nature!

Joeski

April 21, 2015 6:19 PM

MotoGP » Rossi and Marquez: Racing incident


Garcia:
Jack Mordino:
I agree with this but somehow I think Honda's tyre choice was also based on the weather. On Sunday morning it had been raining and cloudy and maybe not as hot as expected. Marc went out with the extra hard and changed to the hard on the grid at the last moment, I am assuming because they thought it wasn't going to be as hot as Saturday.... and it wasn't, it was borderline but just enough for Rossi catch up with Marquez with two laps to go....
If MM ran the extra hards the Yamaha battle he would have had would be with Lorenzo in this race...temperature or not...they did not have the "race pace" in WUP to win on the extra hard period, so they took strategy of management...Cal Crutchlow said that about Rossi's pace...with low 39s for 12 to 15 laps in practice...


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